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Post by marfis on Dec 30, 2008 9:22:24 GMT -5
Clearwater Roster projection.
Since I put up my Lehigh Valley and Reading projection, I just might put all I got out over time.
OF-T.J. Warren, LF, *Dominic Brown CF, Tim Kenelly RF, #Alberto Cambero, OF, Jay Miller OF, Casey Craig OF
IF-Michael Durant 1B, Matt Rizzotti 1B, Karl Bolt 1B, Derrick Mitchell 2B, #Freddy Galvis SS, Travis Mattair 3B, Dennis Wynn IF, *Herman Demmink IF-OF
C- *Joel Naughton, Luis Reyes Arzeno, Travis D'Arnaud
P- Chance Chapman, Kyle Drabek, Julian Sampson, Michael Stutes, Vance Worley, Michael Cisco, *Walter Tejada, Rey Cruz, Eryk McConnell, *Moises Melendez, Brian Rosenberg, Chris Kissock,Zach Sterner, Michael Schwimer
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Post by faithdies on Dec 30, 2008 10:07:11 GMT -5
This team looks like it has a chance to accomplish something.
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Post by marfis on Dec 30, 2008 10:10:33 GMT -5
Yes Among the roster possibilies I figure upon there are some highly touted pitchers and a couple position players that could excel, time will tell.
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Post by phillyfriar on Dec 30, 2008 12:55:24 GMT -5
Definitely an interesting mix here, and behind the MLB-ready prospects in Lehigh Valley (Marson, Donald, Carrasco), this might be the most exciting team to monitor next summer.
I also think Naylor will start here, and there will definitely be some rotation decisions to be made. I think I'd personally go with this...
Drabek
Naylor
Sampson
Stutes
Worley
...and I'd use Cisco as a swing man to get him some starts as well. In my mind, Chapman is the perfect candidate for conversion to the bullpen, and between him, Rosenberg and Schwimer, this could wind up being an impressive bullpen.
As for the position players... I do wonder if they'll decide to bump Galvis and Mattair. Neither really did enough with the bat to warrant promotion, and I don't think it could hurt to leave them in Lakewood for a bit. They could then challenge Overbeck and Hanzawa with early promotions to fill the SS and 3B void.
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Post by marfis on Dec 30, 2008 13:25:30 GMT -5
That whole Galvis and Mattair Clearwater or Lakewood thing is an interesting dillema. They could put the College draftees here or one or the other. I wonder how much the younger guys would really risk by moving to a higher but still somewhat lower level.
I was predicting Drew Naylor for AA, I think an objective looking at his record might warrant such a move.
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Post by diamondderby on Dec 30, 2008 16:21:24 GMT -5
Lineup:
Hanzawa SS
Overbeck 3B
Brown CF
Rizzotti 1B
D'Arnaud C
Kennelly LF
Warren RF
Mitchell 2B
Kyle Drabek
Julian Sampson
Michael Stutes
Vance Worley
Michael Cisco
Chance Chapman, Eryk McConnell, Moises Melendez, Brian Rosenberg, Chris Kissock, Michael Schwimer
Odd team, no real leadoff guy, lots of iffy players. Could do well or wheels could fall off.
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Post by nepp on Dec 30, 2008 21:22:17 GMT -5
Lineup: Hanzawa SS Overbeck 3B Brown CF Rizzotti 1B D'Arnaud C Kennelly LF Warren RF Mitchell 2B Kyle Drabek Julian Sampson Michael Stutes Vance Worley Michael Cisco Chance Chapman, Eryk McConnell, Moises Melendez, Brian Rosenberg, Chris Kissock, Michael Schwimer Odd team, no real leadoff guy, lots of iffy players. Could do well or wheels could fall off. Hanzawa and Overbeck didn't exactly WOW anyone at Williamsport...I'd be surprised if they jumped both of them over Lakewood just because of that...even if they are college grads. Hanzawa was much better than Overbeck overall though. |
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Post by diamondderby on Dec 30, 2008 22:48:05 GMT -5
Lineup: Hanzawa SS Overbeck 3B Brown CF Rizzotti 1B D'Arnaud C Kennelly LF Warren RF Mitchell 2B Kyle Drabek Julian Sampson Michael Stutes Vance Worley Michael Cisco Chance Chapman, Eryk McConnell, Moises Melendez, Brian Rosenberg, Chris Kissock, Michael Schwimer Odd team, no real leadoff guy, lots of iffy players. Could do well or wheels could fall off. Hanzawa and Overbeck didn't exactly WOW anyone at Williamsport...I'd be surprised if they jumped both of them over Lakewood just because of that...even if they are college grads. Hanzawa was much better than Overbeck overall though. I agree their play was not stellar. But Mattair and Galvis hit much worse and at a younger age. I think they would benefit more from another year at Lakewood than Hanzawa and Overbeck would suffer from skipping low A, as college grads. You can always swap one or both of them at mid-year if Mattair and/or Galviss hit very well at Lakewood and the other two are struggling. Truth is, it's an awkward developmental situation. I would make the right decision on the guys with the most upside/youth. That's why I repeat them. |
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Post by griffey423 on Dec 31, 2008 9:20:27 GMT -5
C- *Joel Naughton, Luis Reyes Arzeno, Travis D'Arnaud
I doubt that they will start Naughton and D'Arnaud at the same level. I would think D'Arnaud will be at Lakewood for most, if not all, of the year
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Post by marfis on Dec 31, 2008 9:45:54 GMT -5
C- *Joel Naughton, Luis Reyes Arzeno, Travis D'Arnaud I doubt that they will start Naughton and D'Arnaud at the same level. I would think D'Arnaud will be at Lakewood for most, if not all, of the year Yeah, I put out the possibilities for the various rosters, that was to account for what some have predicted that D'Arnaud would start at Clearwater, I am thinking D'Arnaud starts at Lakewood. They will have to trim that list to 24. |
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Post by nepp on Dec 31, 2008 12:15:52 GMT -5
D'Arnaud will probably start at Lakewood and get promoted mid-season if he continues his rise in the system. They can afford to take their time with him though as he's a catcher, we have a ton of depth and defensive growth takes the longest at that position..
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Post by diamondderby on Jan 1, 2009 13:44:14 GMT -5
D'Arnaud will probably start at Lakewood and get promoted mid-season if he continues his rise in the system. They can afford to take their time with him though as he's a catcher, we have a ton of depth and defensive growth takes the longest at that position.. I think I agree there. Put the more experienced guys in Clearwater--Naughton, Hanzawa and Overbeck. Keep the younger, higher upside guys--D'Arnaud, Mattair, and Galvis--in Lakewood and let them produce at a higher level and gain confidence. Move them up if they warrant it at mid-season. But you have to make these guys the focus and let the other guys settle in wherever. That could mean demotion, promotion, DH, less playing time, or a shift in position. |
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Post by jeffcrupperdotcom on Jan 6, 2009 10:00:10 GMT -5
Personally I've given up on roster projecting, though it is fun to speculate. I'm never more than about 60% correct.
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Post by diamondderby on Jan 6, 2009 15:02:09 GMT -5
jeffcrupper: the value fo me is 1) laying out the lineups and getting an overview of how our talent might distribute among the various levels and 2) beginning speculation on the developmental needs of the prospects. The shifting and tweaking is inevitable. But I think you can get a rough idea of the depth of the system from looking at all of the possible lineups. If you have to slide a bunch of AAAA looking guys into lineups at multiple levels, your system is thin. If you have decent to very good prospects at all or most levels, that's pretty cool. Just another way of looking at what we have and passing the month of January, the cruelest month of all.
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Post by jeffcrupperdotcom on Jan 11, 2009 20:25:11 GMT -5
Ok ... www.jeffcrupper.com/baseball/players.html here is my input into the 2009 Roster projection. I fully redesigned my Threshers page this season to take the jeff crupper dot com reference completely out of the title, and redesigned all of the pages for a more uniform look. Can you tell I'm bored in the off season? |
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